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Celtic Girl by Pelycosaur24 Celtic Girl by Pelycosaur24

Once again something from Antiquity! Now when most people hear the word “Celtic” they probably think of something British or Irish, however the Celts were spread through big parts of Europe with the predominantly “Celtic” regions being France, Southern Germany and Austria.

Our Celtic girl here would be from the Kingdom of Noricum, which existed since the 3rd century BC. As the northern neighbors of the roman republic they were valuable trade partners since they had a ready resource of gold, iron and salt. What’s more the Norici where known to be expert metal workers – the “Noric steel” they exported soon became the main material for roman weapons. The quality of this “ferrum noricum” was proverbial and the term was often used by poets to express how hard something was.

In the 2nd Century BC the Kingdom became a target for invading Germans and the Norici called the Romans for help. The result was one of the worst Roman defeats at the battle of Noreia.

The relationship between the Celts of Noricum and the Romans remained friendly, and King Voccio even sent troops to assist Julius Caesar in 49 BC. So as you might imagine the transformation from Celtic Kingdom to Roman Province went over peacefully.

The dress depicted here was typical for the people of Noricum before and after the Roman takeover, as its depiction on tombstones suggests. The most characteristic part is the headwear known as a “noric cap” which was tied at the back of the head and was sometimes combined with a veil. As seen here www.ubi-erat-lupa.org/img/monu…

Just as characteristic is the belt, with the metal parts being a common find at Noric sites. The belt as well as the typical fibulas can be seen on this depiction www.replik-shop.de/images/prod…

Oh and one last thing: Never, and I mean Never, under no circumstances ask an Austrian Archaeologist where Noreia is located.

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Cheetaaaaa Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017
Gibt es irgendwelche Information wie sich die Männer in Noricum angezogen haben? ^^
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2017
Genau das Gleiche hab ich mich auch gefragt ^^; , da ich letzte Woche wieder norische Trachten gezeichnet habe... hab bei ein paar Archäologen nachgefragt, sobald ich was weiß werd ich eine Zeichnung mit Infos dazu hochladen :D
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Cheetaaaaa Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2017
Da freu ich mich drauf! :D
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DinoArt65 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2016  Student Artist
You don't mind if I use this as a model for how some of the people in my book world dress, do you? 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2016
I dont mind at all - I'd be glad to have characters that resemble ancient Norici :D
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DinoArt65 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2016  Student Artist
Thanks
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seanchow806 Featured By Owner May 10, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
I kind of fell bad for Celtic people and I see what you mean that unknown location of Noreia that gives a controversy for archeologists. Still, I think that is a wonderful picture and the Celtic Girl in Nuevo Colombia joining the revolution siding with Constitutional Monarchists revolutionaries against Spain that attacked her own people when they alleged siding with the revolutionaries of Constitutional Monarchy League along with her Assyrian companion.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner May 19, 2016
I am glad you like it :)
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2016   Writer
Oh yes, Celts, the Northern Europeans of the Aincent Europe, pretty interesting people and part of Roman/Europen history. Also the people responsible (well at least externally) for Marian reforms in Rome... the first Barbarians they have actually met... as not all Barbarians the romans fought were Germans...

Its interesting how diverse celtic response to Romans were, some allied with them and Romanized, other fought till the bitter end... and parts of them actually survived the great migration...

The norici seems like nice folks especially this 'Irish' Alpine lassy XD

Its really interesting to see how people working in the rich metal 'industry' brought elements and the pride of it into their traditional clothing, with the belt here, they are not super rich or civilized, yet their envolvment in metal works shines trought. The later new commers, German and Slavic tribes just had nothing like that, I think its such a missing piece of folk wears in these moderner cultures.   

Thanks for the iformative description as always! ;) 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2016
Yep they are very interesting, partly due to the diversity of celtic cultures (though I would be lying if I said they are not a little overrepresented in movies... especially British celts)

Yes, I believe they were even less homogenous than germans when it comes to relations with romans.

Haha thank you :XD:

Metal industry as it seems has always been a source of power - this goes back even to the late stone age (with Ötzi and all that)

You are very welcome - it is always the most fun to write the descriptions :)
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2016   Writer
Well they are partly a surviving group from even the pre roman times, especially in Brittan, so I would say they have a place in movies... although... Romans and the Church should also have earned a seat in prolonged movie representation. 

Once again because they were pretty widespread.

;) you are welcome!

Well it still is a nice touch and I miss it from our culture. 

Its also always fun to read them. 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2016
Yeah, true - it would be nice to see a movie set in late antiquity... that is not as ideologically charged as "Agora" but rather treats this time period objectively.

I am glad you think so - its always tricky to figure out the perfect length for a description.
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2016   Writer
Agreed. We need a good movie showing that not everything late Roman was corrupt and vile and unethical. 

The longer the better xD at least from my point of view ;)
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2016
Yes, exactely I would also like to see Neo-Platonism depicted realistically instad of just portraying all late antiquity pagans as following the traditional religion (or beeing Atheists like Hypathia)

I will do my best :XD:
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2016   Writer
Yes to show from where the European culture really emerged from and whom played an important role in that, should be could be an important aspect of an educational but still fun series or movie.  Would really be something unique and important. 

Good to hear, I shall be waiting for more.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2016
True! There definitely should be something like that.
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MoonyMina Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
really nice work with her :)

hehe, the location of Noreia seems as "elusive" for the Austrians as Alesia is for the French :D (though it seems for different reasons :D )
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
Thank you!  :D

Ah, yes that is a good comparison. True, the reasons are different - it has more to do with the History of Archaeology than with national History :)
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TheAsianGuyLOL Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Celts had some pretty nice native clothing :D.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016
They did indeed! :D
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grassa48 Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Caesar's girlfriend?
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016
I dont know if he has ever been  to Noricum ;)
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grassa48 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Oh. OK.
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2016
Pretty nice. Too bad there is so few remaining traces
of Celtic culture...
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016
Thank you! well we have quite a lot in Austria (of course not as much as roman)
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016
There are a lot of traces of Celtic culture in Austria?
I'm quiet interested. Do you have any interesting links
to share about Celtic culture, by any chance?
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
Almost on every other hill there is a celtic settlement, it may not be the "big ones" but there is something everywhere. And of course since the Roman takeover went over peacefully a lot of the original celtic elements made it through into the later Celto-Roman Society - this can be seen very well on tomb stones. Celtic stone architecture does not really exist, its mostly wood. This is the website of a museum in Carinthia: www.keltenwelt.at/ (while it has an exibition on celts the site itself - burial ground- is older - from the Hallstatt culture) - but there is not much in english ^^;
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
Oh! Pretty interesting! It's in German, I will try to understand it
the best I can or use Google translate on Chrome. Thanks again!
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
You are welcome! :D
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J-LE7 Featured By Owner Mar 27, 2016  Professional
The best example is the La Tène culture with its core located in Switzerland, Bavaria and Austria.
Read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_T%C3%…
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
Thank you a lot for these interesting informations!
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J-LE7 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Professional
The pleasure is mine. :thanks:

I'm very interested in which project you may have about this.
Please let me know.
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016
To speak honestly I am just trying to puzzle back
our ancient Aryan lineage and I came to the
conclusion that Celtic culture represents a major
piece in understanding our ancient Indo-Aryan
past in terms of cult, history and people.

If I ever get to make a decent work out of it, I will
probably post it in the "history-rocks" group.
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J-LE7 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2016  Professional
There are really a lot of theories about the origins of Indo-European settlements. Which of course are often contradictory.
The day has not arrived where anthropologists, geneticists and linguists will agree.

Europe was populated by waves.
Neolithic ethnic groups whose know almost nothing, pre-Celtic population (Hallstatt) and Celtic (La Tene, from the Atlantic Ocean to the Cappadocia), Germanic, etc., this for northern Europe.
As for the south, with the Mediterranean Sea as a highway, it is even more unclear.
nd what about the Neanderthals? Geneticists have proven that we could between 2% and 7% of their genes ...

I wish you good luck. :aww:
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Gambargin Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2016
She looks pretty! Her depiction reminded me of the Halstatt culture you've shown before, but the belt she wears is pretty ornamental:D

What about Noreia? where is it?
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2016
Thank you! :D Yes to some degree this was the descendant of the Hallstatt culture, since there is no real rift between the two. Yes the belts were the most important status symbol in this celtic society.

well... nobody knows where Noreia is. A lot of Archaeologists have tried to find it and everyone has his own theory where it is. Arguments can get very heated - especially in Carinthia the individual archaeologists hate each other because of this subject (if you are weary of life you walk up to them and claim Noreia is in Slovenia ;) ) Several times Noreia has been "found". In fact the the last time it was "found" was last week :facepalm: www.krone.at/Wissen/Koenigssta… (the headline translates: City of Noreia found in Carinthia?
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