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Upon Saint Crispins Day by Pelycosaur24 Upon Saint Crispins Day by Pelycosaur24

King Henry V

October 25th 1415 - 600 year anniversary of the Battle of Agincourt

Who would have thought there were two important battle anniversaries this year involving France and England - both ending with spectacular French defeats. 

First of all, my inspiration was the famous St. Crispin’s day Speech delivered by Kenneth Branagh. www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAvmLD… This is the one piece of literature that convinced me that Shakespeare truly is the greatest English Writer. I stand by it, this is the most glorious speech in History!

 “We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

For he to-day that sheds his blood with me

Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,

This day shall gentle his condition;

And gentlemen in England now-a-bed

Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,

And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.”

So here we stand on Saint Crispins day 2015, 600 years after the battle of Agincourt where about 8000 English soldiers (6000 of them Archers) stood against a French Army of 12.000 – 40.000 men, and won. This battle is particularly interesting for everyone with an interest in Archery.  

The one weapon most associated with this battle is of course the English longbow. Drawing about 120 – 150 lbs it was effective at a range of up to 300 m. The English would have their arrows rain down on the French in a storm, a tactic that decided several famous battles of the Hundred Years war.

Part of the background www.fleurdelettre.com/?attachm…

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Packless1 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2017
Gänsehaut...! I salute you!
DIE Motivationsrede schlechthin...! Thumbs Up 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2017
Stimmt genau! :D Ich liebe es sie aufzusagen ;)
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DinoArt65 Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2017  Student Artist
Awesome. I want to learn more about Henry V. 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2017
Thank you! To be honest I dont know that much about him other than the Shakespeare play ^^;
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DinoArt65 Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2017  Student Artist
That's okay. I can look up history books
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ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Ha! König Heinrich V! Den erkenne ich sofort! :D
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2016
Genau! Diese Frisur gibt es nur einmal in der Geschichte :XD:
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ladyblackbird13 Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Und dann noch mit der Rüstung und Flagge. ;)
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2016
Ja die ist auch ziemlich ikonisch :D
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MoonyMina Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
oh wow!! I love you for this!!

I really love that guy, that battle is awesome to study and I love Shakespeare's play about it... needless to say: instant fave!!!!
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015
Thank you so much :D

Yes me too, after seeing the Kenneth Branagh Version this is now my favorite Shakespeare Play - and the History behind it is not less interesting.  Especially for an archer like me.
So I am glad you like my tribute to this event! :)
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MoonyMina Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
haven't seen Branagh version of it, but I'm sure I'll like it ... his Hamlet was totally awesome
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2015
I think it is on youtube - and its sooo worth watching, ah, but I have not seen Hamlet yet, need to watch that!
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MoonyMina Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I will :)
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Dwarfish-beer Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
nice!
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015
Thank you!
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015   Writer
Yeah the famous longbow, almost as effective as the Hungarian /Hun Reflex bow (both for their reflective times)
In the middle ages bows  decided many battles, and English in the 100 year war really capitalized on them, sadly so they could not win the war itself with em. Hnm btw will you once do a Jean of Arc drawing?

Arrrgh I should have read up on that battle this weekend, if only I haven't already packed away my book on decisive battles... 

Yup Shakespeare is the God of British literature.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Yep, I love both these bow types - I got a longbow and a mongolian bow myself - altough the longbow has a undeniable epicness to it. Oh, yes there is a whole list of great victories with through the longbow! Crecy, Poitiers.... a true medieval super weapon. But you are right, in the end it did not win the war. Hm... I think she would fit with my other historical figures, so I will put her on my list :)

I got some nice books on longbow archery at the British Museum - and I also got a nice documentary on Agincourt, plus the BBC posted a really informative site today: www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zsxr82p

The Saint Crispinsday Speech convinced me that he is!
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015   Writer
Bow's were pretty cool and powerful weapons of their time in fact even  in late Japanese  civil war, up till the point the Imperials introduced back loaded guns, in some cases the Shogunate forces were at an advantage with their traditional bows. Still I prefer a good sub machine gun or an assault rifle to any bow. XD

Yep Mongolians used the reflex bows too, but by the time thy came around Europe it was a tinny bit obsolete tech. 
English and their long bows were really effective against the undisciplined French knights and yeah they were also rather cheap troops, but in the end unity proved even more effective, from the French side. Cool, she is a cool historical char.

Yeah I guess I should look one of those up, or should pack my book out of the box I have put it in... 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2015
Thats true, in some aspects bows have advatages over guns (especially early ones).

It also always comes down to the tactic you use, be it Horse Archery or Longbow Archery. The use of Archery in battle was pretty diverse.

yes, after all its the year of anniversaries of battles that involved England and France and ended with french defeats - so the write time to unpack all your books on military History ;)
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2015   Writer
Yes, short distance ballistic fire, to shot behind cover for example, also in the early days muskets were very inaccurate and short distance weapons, bows on the other hand in the hands of a well trained archer, could be very accurate and a long distance weapon, however training to use them takes longer time too.

Agreed, also depends on the environment. I would go with horse archers, that mobility is very much needed too.

Well XD I guess then I don't have any other choice, I have to unpack... ;) 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015
Exactely, the imense training required for good archers was on important reason why crossbows and guns took over. It takes both skill and enormous strenght to shoot an efective war bow - we even see deformations on the skeletons of longbowmen - usually cripled shoulders from the stress put on the muscles.

True, that is also the main problem I have with Lars Andersons famous archery video... because he fails to mention that there are many different archery styles and uses for archery. Plus his method would be soooooo useless in any real battle.

;)
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Bezsoba Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015   Writer
Yes archers were hard and long to train, but it meant they were very effective: XD www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_y_Pa…

Gunners were a lot easier to optain and well in time guns become a lot more effective as well.
 
Still archery and sword fencing has a romantic and noble sumpremacy when it comes to war for a noble cause. 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2015
True, the bow may be one of the most noble sports of all time, it just has so much style :D
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sdowning Featured By Owner Edited Oct 26, 2015
Great pic, but Joan of Arc beat English! what do you think of her and the trial and burning her at the stake? If Henry V met Joan of Arc at 1429, he could beat her?
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Thank you! :) you are right, she really kicked them out. Her story always fascinated me, and I think it is very tragic that her story had to end that way (and I was always wondering, could the French King not intervene on her behalf?) Hm... thats a good question, I dont really know, but he proved to be quite a good strategist (as long as there are enough longbows).
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sdowning Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Wow, That's a good and awesome answer! you are great! ^^
Though Charles VII, the French King won in Hundred Years' War eventually and he reestablished France, but he betrayed Joan. T . T(though she was killed by English and pro-English French!) however, fortunately, the Vatican proved that she was innocent and a martyr, and she became a Saint! ^^ 
I think and believe that Joan didn't hate English itself, because I had heard that Joan comforted the prisoners(the English soldiers, her enemy!), and she wept and prayed to them! and I have a British friend, she love Joan! hehehe! ^^
Thank you very much for the answer! ^^
ps:Sorry, I can't speaking English well! ^^; 
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2015

Thank you :aww:

That’s very interesting (since I am not really an expert on the History of the Hundred Years War)!

Yes, she was definitely a good motivator and figure of identification - a fitting saint!

That’s nice to hear :D I appreciate your comment very much :)

 

and btw, I think your English is excellent

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sdowning Featured By Owner Edited Oct 27, 2015
Oh, according to your saying to Mr. Bezsoba, you may consider to draw Joan of Arc someday. right? that's great! I'm sure you draw a great art of Joan! you can do it! hehehe! ^^ I will support you! it's been a slice to talk with you! ^^
Anyway, Thank you very much again! ^^
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015
Yes, she is on my list :) (also my Disney Warrior Princess Entry for Esmeralda will be influenced by Joan of Arc as well)
Thank you, I really liked our conversation.
You are welcome.
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sdowning Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2015
Hi, long time no see, if you draw an art about Joan of Arc, how about do upload on january 6(Joan's birthday) or may 30(the day of her martyrdom and feast day)? it can be very meaningful and great! ^^
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2015
Hi! Thank you, Thats actually a very good Idea! :) I will do that
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Scipia Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
A great picture, for a very sad day :(
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Thank you! Yes the saddest thing beside a battle lost is a battle won.
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Scipia Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Well I wouldn't say it's a battle won, first because I'm a French, second because it have an heavy human cost contrary to most of the medieval battles due to the unusual lack of nobility of the winner against the defeated.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
(I was actually just quoting the Duke of Wellington ^^;) But I agree, to lable something a Victory or a Defeat is always a matter of taking a lot of aspects into account. In this case I have to be honest I can't really contrats it - my main interest lies with the importance this battle has for war archery.
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Scipia Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2015
Oh, sorry I didn't know it ^^ we don't really know Wellington's quotes here

Oh, I didn't question the importance of this battle, yes it was interesting to see the superiority of archery against knights. The whole French tactic was changed after this defeat, so in a cynical/pragmatical point of view it was a necessary defeat to modernize the French army, even if at first it was considered as a God's punishment.

But the most memorable thing about this battle is the execution of the prisonners, even for the medieval standards it was considered as a shock and a barbarian act.
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2015
Ah, yes I can understand that. (I am actually not to much of a Wellington Fan myself)

That is certainly correct, there are a lot of battles like that, like the Samnite Wars for the roman republican army. It was thanks to them that they realized that the phalanx was outdated. Same goes for how the phalanx got invented in the first place with the spartan defeat in the second messenian war.

Ah, yes, in the middle ages that was seen as a barbarian act.... in antiquity it was the most normal thing ever - thats something I noticed, the complete destruction of whole cities was something very common in antiquity but somehow not in the middle ages.
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MartyTheRabbit Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
We few, we happy few! Best line ever :D
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
We Band of Brothers! So true :)
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hippo2 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015
Henry V is my favourite play by the bard of Stratford too. I had the luck to see a presentation of the play in spring 2003 in England, just before the start of the Iraq war.

Did you know that there is an eve of battle speech for the Iraq war too? It was hold by Col. Tim Collins and written down by a journalist in shorthand. Later, the speech was dramatized for the TV series "10 Days of War". And on TV, Col. Tim Collins was play by Kenneth Brennagh too. Check it out: www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKkILS…
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
I am glad you agree!

Wow, thank you, I did not know that. It seems Kenneth Branagh has a good taste for very dramatic and epic speeches, and he has a very good way of delivering them too.
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grassa48 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2015  Hobbyist Writer
He's Henery the Fifth he is,
Henery the Fifth he is, he is.

(And I ain't apologizing to nobody!)
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Pelycosaur24 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2015
Well he sure is :D
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